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[/COLOR]Кракодил, посмотри плз, я найти не могу, вот тут ссылка на примечания к главе, там могут быть эльфо-гоблинские параллели

With the wood-elves, we have finally come full circle to what, had this been one
of the Lost Tales, would have been either the starting point or the core of the book.
With the inversion of Tolkien’s invented races we have already discussed back in
the commentary to the conclusion of Chapter I (see pp. 76 & 78), The Hobbit starts
far from the elf-centric core of all Tolkien’s earlier works in the legendarium1

Я точно видела вчера эти фразы. Счас гляну.

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UPD: что-то не соображу, куда смотреть. На тех страницах, которые у меня обозначены №№76-78 ничего похожего нет.

копирую сюда все три страницы

is replaced by ‘carefully! carefully’ (‘So, carefully! carefully with the plates!’).
All these changes already appear in the next text of the poem, that appearing in
the First Typescript (Marq. 1/1/51:8).
9 ‘Dwalin’ was emended to ‘Gandalf’, a change necessitated by the fact that Dwalin,
like the other twelve, was busy with the washing up; only Gandalf had stayed
behind. The rather more prominent role Dwalin played in the First Stage texts
may be due to his name having been taken from one of the most famous of all
dwarves in Norse lore, Dvalin. As Christopher Tolkien notes in his edition and
translation of Heidreks Saga,
Dwalin seems to have been one of the most renowned of all dwarfs, and often
appears in the Eddaic poetry (especially Volospá 14, Fáfnismál 13, Hávamál
143).
—The Saga of King Heidrek the Wise [1960], page 15.
In ‘The Waking of Angantyr’, one of several ancient poems incorporated into
the much later (late twelfth/early thirteenth century) prose saga,† it is said that
the cursed sword Tyrfing was forged by Dvalin (ibid., page 15). An alternate
opening of the saga given as an appendix to Christopher Tolkien’s edition gives
the full story of how Dvalin and Durin, ‘the most skillful of all dwarfs’, were
captured and forced to forge a magnificent magical sword, upon which they put
a curse (The Saga of King Heidrek the Wise, page 68); the saga is essentially the
story of the subsequent owners of the cursed sword. It is ironic that in Norse lore
Dvalin was far better known than Durin, whereas through Tolkien’s usage in The
Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings that situation has now reversed.
† another being ‘The Battle of the Goths and Huns’, a probable remote inspiration for the
character Éowyn in The Lord of the Rings.
10 Several small changes were made to the poem: ‘to claim our long forgotten
gold’ is written in the margin alongside the line ‘To claim our pale enchanted
gold’ in the fifth stanza. In the sixth stanza, ‘cups’ is changed to ‘goblets’, in the
eighth ‘vale’ is changed to ‘dale’, and in the final line ‘take’ is changed to ‘win’.
That these minor refinements were all that was needed to bring the poem into its
final form was due to the fact that the missing section of the Pryftan Fragment
contained a draft of this poem, although only a single line of it survives; see p.
14.
11 As this line shows, The Hobbit’s trademark mix of the familiar and the strange
is perhaps at its strongest in this chapter: references to pop-guns, trains, teaparties,
and familiar names for days of the week lie alongside wizards, dwarves,
dragons, and hobbits, just as the ‘Wild Wireworms of the Chinese’ is juxtaposed
against the Battle of the Green Fields and the goblins of Mount Gram. Tolkien
had good precedent for his mentions of tobacco and tomatoes;† even the Brothers
Grimm allowed potatoes and contemporary coaches into their folk-tales.
Some of the so-called anachronisms, however, are nothing of the sort; it is the
narrator, not one of the characters in the story, who compares the scream welling
up inside Bilbo to a train-whistle, just as in The Lord of the Rings it is again the
narrator who compares the noise made by the firework dragon to an express
train rushing by (LotR.40).
† In the third edition of 1966, Tolkien changed the tomatoes to pickles (see pp. 777 &
786) but let the tobacco stand, despite having used the less specific ‘pipeweed’ in the sequel.
A devoted rather than a heavy smoker himself, Tolkien once recorded an amusing
dialogue in praise of tobacco called ‘At the Tobacconist’s’ for the Linguaphone Institute.
12 Bilbo’s cry ‘struck by lightning, struck by lightning’ refers not to anything in
Gandalf’s speech but to Bladorthin’s staff with its blue light and ‘firework
glare’. Compare the scene several chapters later when the goblins try to capture
the wizard in the mountain-cave. There we are told ‘there was a terrific flash like
lightning in the cave and several fell dead’ (p. 130); the goblin guards later report
to the Great Goblin that ‘Several of our people were struck by magic lightning
in the cave, when we invited them to come below, and are dead as stones’
(p. 132).
13 An ink revision here changes ‘Fingolfin’ to ‘Golfimbul’.
14 Here ‘burglar’ was changed in ink to an illegible word, possibly ‘hunter’, which
is then rejected in favor of ‘burglar’ once more.
15 References to the ‘shetland’ pony and the aforementioned wireworms ‘of the
Chinese’ survive here from the previous draft, while the Gobi (famous at the
time for Roy Chapman Andrews’ fossil-hunting expeditions there throughout the
1920s, which led to the discovery of the first dinosaur eggs in 1923) has become
‘the last desert in the East’; also gone is the Hindu Kush (already marked for deletion
in the Pryftan Fragment). Through these exotic but real features, Bilbo’s
world remains firmly tied to our own.
16 Both this paragraph and the one before it were extensively reworked, with marginal
additions in dark ink:
. . . plenty of Excitement and reasonable Reward’; that is how it is usually read.
You can say ‘Expert treasure-hunter’, if you like, instead of ‘Burglar’. Some of
them do. It’s all the same to us. Bladorthin told us there was a man of the sort in
these parts looking for a job at once, and that he would arrange for a meeting
this Wednesday tea-time.’
‘Of course there is a mark’ said the wizard [cancelled: not letting Bilbo speak]
I put it there myself. For very good reasons. I chose Mr Baggins for your fourteenth
man, and let any one say I chose the wrong man who dares. If any one
does you can stop at thirteen and have all the bad luck you like, or go back to
digging coal.’ He scowled so angrily at Gloin, that the dwarf huddled back in
his chair; and when Bilbo tried [to speak >] to open his mouth to ask questions,
he turned and frowned at him and stuck out his <bushy> eyebrows, till Bilbo
shut his mouth tight with a snap. ‘That’s right’ said Bladorthin. ‘Let’s have no
more argument. I have chosen Mr Baggins, and that ought to be enough for all
of you. If I say he is a Burglar, a Burglar he is, or will be when the time comes.
There is a lot more in him than you guess, and a lot more than he has any idea of
himself. You may (possibly) all live to thank me yet. Now Bilbo, my boy fetch the
lamp and let’s have a little light on this.’
17 These three paragraphs were reproduced with only minor changes in the First
Typescript (that is, the first complete typescript of the entire book, begun after
the manuscript draft had reached the scene on Ravenhill), but there they were recast
by black ink revisions (indicated below in italics) written interlinearly in
Tolkien’s neatest script:
On the table in the light of a big lamp with a red shade he spread a piece of
parchment rather like a map.
‘This I got from your grandfather, Thorin’ he said in answer to the dwarves’
excited questions. ‘It is a plan of the Mountain.’
‘I do’nt see that this will help us much’ said Thorin disappointedly after a
glance. ‘I remember the Mountain well enough, and the lands about it. And
I know where Mirkwood is, and the Withered Heath where the great dragons
bred.’
‘There is a dragon marked in red on the Mountain’, said Balin, ‘but it will
be easy enough to find him without that, if ever we arrive there.’
 

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