(после попытки перебросить содержимое тетрадей в комп)
Нее, народ, не получится. Голова отказывается думать осмысленно, а тем более воображать
А теперь по поводу спора. Залезла я на Энциклопедию.
Цитата:
Eldar - The Elves of the Great Journey
Other Names: The Elder Children of Ilúvatar, Elves, The Firstborn, The People of the Stars, Quendi
Meaning: 'People of the Stars'
The name given to the Elves by the Vala Oromë
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Вы поняли?
Тулкас тут ни при чем.
Цитата:
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when he first found them wandering in the starlight of Cuiviénen. At first, the name was applied to all Elves, but after the summons of the Valar, it came to be used only of the peoples who followed the summons and began the Great Journey.
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А кто там у нас начал Грейт Джорни?
Цитата:
The Three Kindreds of the Eldar were the Vanyar, the Noldor and the Teleri.
Many of the Teleri also journeyed to Valinor, but twice a host of this people turned away from the Journey in Middle-earth; these two kindreds are called Úmanyar, the Eldar not of Aman. The first of these were the Nandor, who turned aside east of the Misty Mountains, and travelled down the River Anduin. The second, the Sindar, tarried in Beleriand seeking their lord, Elwë Singollo.
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Так что эльдар - это все эльфы кроме авари
А Уманьяр - это нандор и синдар.
Теперь понятно?